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SageHarpuia posted...
It's coffee. Coffee is hot. She had third degree burns. Coffee shouldn't be that hot.
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Because they're fucking idiots.
Exhibit A: SageHarpuia posted... It's coffee. Coffee is hot.
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dolomedes posted...
OctilIery posted...How do people still not know that was a legitimate lawsuit with McDonald's running a smear campaign to save public image? there's always that guy that uses even the most innocuous topic to whinge about trump. |
I took an intro to criminal justice class for an elective recently, and someone brought up the case as an example of stupid lawsuits, and I was waiting for the teacher to correct them, and she didn't, she agreed with them. Somehow she didn't know either.
I never willingly participate in classes, but that's one of the handful of times where I spoke up to correct them.
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JustMonika posted...
OctilIery posted...McDonald's running a smear campaign lol you must not be familiar with corporate lawyers
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HiddenRoar posted...
Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee. Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.
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Wasssup Now posted...
dave_is_slick posted...HiddenRoar posted...show hidden quote(s) Not "third-degree burns" hot.
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JustMonika posted...
OctilIery posted...McDonald's running a smear campaign It isn't just McDonald's, bit many corporations who push the idea that frivolous lawsuits are rampant. McDonald's pushed the story that she was just a stupid woman who burned herself, to distract from the fact that they were at fault. |
Wasssup Now posted...
dave_is_slick posted...HiddenRoar posted...show hidden quote(s) http://injury.findlaw.com/product-liability/the-mcdonald-s-coffee-cup-case-separating-mcfacts-from-mcfiction.html McFact #1: McDonald's coffee was served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. McDonald's had long known that this was twenty to thirty degrees hotter than the coffee served at most other restaurants. In the ten years before the case, more than 700 people who were scalded by coffee burns made claims against the company. But McDonald's never lowered the temperature of its coffee.
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dave_is_slick posted...
HiddenRoar posted...Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee. If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees. Not exactly freshly brewed. |
HiddenRoar posted...
If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees. If the coffee is so hot that you can't even drink it until it cools down, why does it matter if you receive it immediately after it's brewed vs. 15 minutes later when it's at a more manageable temperature? |
HiddenRoar posted...
dave_is_slick posted...HiddenRoar posted...show hidden quote(s) Brew at that temperature, absolutely. Serve, absolutely not.
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with how lawsuit happy this country is, I'm shocked that this is everyone's go to example when complaining about how often people sue. The coffee case was perfectly legitimate.
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markconigliaro posted...
I took an intro to criminal justice class for an elective recently, and someone brought up the case as an example of stupid lawsuits, and I was waiting for the teacher to correct them, and she didn't, she agreed with them. Somehow she didn't know either. No doubt they mocked her and her lawsuit. I'm interested in what their response once after they showed themselves up...?
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it did start from a dumb premise. Spill your food on yourself and sue the restaurant is almost exactly a metaphor for how lawsuit happy America is
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SageHarpuia posted...
It's coffee. Coffee is hot.americans deny evolution It was too hot, and McDonald's should have just covered that poor woman's medical expenses and put it to bed
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SusanGreenEyes posted...
From what I remember the lid wasn't properly fastened and the coffee was boiling hot. Yeah. They had pulled over into a parking spot and the lady, in the passenger seat, was going to take the top off and put sugar or whatever in it. Lid wasn't on secure enough, spilled into her lap, and like others said, melted her shit. McDonalds had a history of complaints and lawsuits about how hot the coffee was, so they knew... they just continued doing it. She also didn't sue for that much, she just wanted medical expenses paid, a jury is the one who awarded her the millions. So the notion that someone can "just spill coffee in their lap while driving and get millions!" is completely wrong.
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Paragon21XX posted...
HiddenRoar posted...dave_is_slick posted...show hidden quote(s) There are still alot of places that advertise "fresh brewed coffee". Should kind of be illegal with what I'm seeing here. |
Wasssup Now posted...
Yes, those sick bastards not serving coffee that could mutilate you if you spill it.
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pegusus123456 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...It's coffee. Coffee is hot. And yet there are still no laws requiring coffee to be under a certain temperature. Sounds like the lawsuit didn't really target food safety reform
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OctilIery posted...
gafemaqs posted...Oh yeah. It was like third degree burns wasn't it? You know that the coffee they make TODAY is still that hot, right? She spilled it while trying to pour it into her own cup, while driving. She deserved to be burned for being such a stupid human being.
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Coffeebeanz posted...
pegusus123456 posted...SageHarpuia posted...show hidden quote(s) I work in a nursing home kitchen and if our coffee is above a certain temperature we can get cited for it
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pegusus123456 posted...
Wasssup Now posted... https://www.nutritioncaresystems.com/resources/faq/ There is no regulation stipulating an upper level for hot foods or beverages. Coupled with the requirement to keep hot foods and beverages at both safe and palatable levels of 135° or greater, there can be a concern of how hot is “too hot.” While many people like their coffee or other hot beverage in the 170° to 200° range, this can present a risk to residents who are cognitively impaired, have weakness or are fatigued, have difficulty with motor skills or simply require assistance to eat and drink.
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Heineken14 posted...
SusanGreenEyes posted...From what I remember the lid wasn't properly fastened and the coffee was boiling hot. My torts professor absolutely ripped on a classmate when we got on the subject of frivolous lawsuits and this was brought up.
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The issue wasn't the heat of the coffee. If it was, it would've resulted in federal regulations.
A history of lawsuits doesn't suddenly make it illegal. There were, and still are, many coffee shops that serve at temperatures higher than McD's.
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Coffeebeanz posted...
pegusus123456 posted...Wasssup Now posted...show hidden quote(s) "While many people like their coffee... in the 170-200 degree range...." My point the whole time, and it's proof that most of the people complaining about McDonald's in this case don't have a clue what they're talking about. The coffee was served only ten degrees hotter than when they'd complain it was cold.
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Coffeebeanz posted...
The issue wasn't the heat of the coffee. If it was, it would've resulted in federal regulations. It most certainly was the heat of the coffee. That's literally the only way to claim McDonald's is responsible for her injury, since it was entirely self-induced.
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Darmik posted...
Didn't her jeans melt into her skin? Like god damn. shoulda been wearing $200 jeans tbh |
darkjedilink posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...The issue wasn't the heat of the coffee. If it was, it would've resulted in federal regulations. It was not illegal, nor even out of the ordinary, to serve coffee at that temperature. In fact, it still isn't. McD's defense was that it was acting within accepted industry standards. That was and still is objectively true.
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Coffeebeanz posted...
darkjedilink posted...Coffeebeanz posted...show hidden quote(s) A practice being industry standard does not provide an absolute defense against a negligence claim.
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darkjedilink posted...
OctilIery posted...gafemaqs posted...show hidden quote(s) Actually no. She spilled it when she placed the coffee cup between her knees and when she tried to take the lid off it spilled in her lap. Also, the car was parked when it happened and she wasn't even the driver anyway. She was sitting in the passenger seat.
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